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UPDATED: Mixed Response at McLaren Park Disc Golf Meeting

Posted in People & Places by Kim on April 21, 2010

I wasn’t actually able to attend the meeting last night, but I’m piecing together as much as possible.

From browsing the San Francisco Disc Golf Club forum, there are obviously people who want this disc golf course, but according to “Billy M,” the following was also heard: “cat calls, booing, ‘go back to Iowa’ … ‘don’t come to my park from over in Oakland.'”

Jeffery Bowling, a Crocker-Amazon resident and member of  the Disc Golf Club, said that the response seemed evenly balanced between positive and negative. He said most of the responses were civil, considering that comments lasted for three hours.

To clarify, many of the negative comments from residents had to do with the fact that they felt they were inadequately informed that the city had approved a disc golf course in Golden Gate Park and McLaren Park in 2005.

The next biggest set of concerns, according to Bowling, were from users of the off-leash dog area in McLaren Park. The proposed disc golf course will occupy a quarter of the current off-leash dog area — intended to be a mixed-use space. Some are worried that the two activities are not compatible, with dogs being likely to chase the frisbees, for instance.

Elton Pon, spokesman from the Recreation and Parks Department, said there were more than 150 people at last night’s meeting, which lasted until 10 p.m. instead of the scheduled 8:30 p.m. end time.

“It’s important to note that our main objective with this project is to activate the spaces in McLaren Park,” Pon said. “The course in Golden Gate Park has proven to be extremely popular and successful and we’d like to build on that success at McLaren Park.”

RPD hopes to aggregate all the information from the meeting and post it on their web site within a week, according to Pon. The next steps will be to continue working with the SF Disc Golf Club and the community.

In the meantime, check out “Disc Golf in McLaren Park” facts and the current proposed layout.


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  2. L. Olsen said, on April 24, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    How is the city supposed to notify the community? I mean all commissions are public record, and we’re supposed to be vigilant, but is it our fault for not paying attention in 2005?

    • ruggersf said, on April 26, 2010 at 5:10 pm

      They are supposed to post notices in the park when items of this nature are being decided. It was incumbent upon them to do this. They did not. I know, I live across the street from the park and have for 15 years.

      They also should have made a special effort as in ’97 when this was proposed there was huge community outcry at that time as well.

    • cesar said, on June 19, 2012 at 12:00 am

      Hey moron, is your blood sweat and tears in this park? Did you grow up here? Do you realizer you want to destroy lifeforms in order to play golf like a leech human does?? Analyze or land in lies, and go be one with the woods , not just run through it.

  3. Stephanie Nuttman said, on April 25, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    Yes, all commissions are public record, but all commissions do not follow this state law Brown Act and Sunshine Ordinance, city act. City departments including Rec and Park have been lax in providing information to the public for many years. Rec and Park pretended McClaren didn’t exist since 2005. The park was never listed as a city park on their website until 2010 and the only information on the park prior to 2010 was available through Friends of McClaren Park.

    So it is your responsibility, overpaid union city employee, to know and follow the law, which never happened and still isn’t happening. You are suppose to post Agendas to EVERY Meeting 72 hours in advance of the meeting in community access areas. You have suppose to give the public access to add items to the agenda. Everyone at Rec and Park gives the name of a different responsible person when asked for information.

    Rec and Park wants to do less work, hates dog owners and dog play areas. 300 acres of park and they can only find the 25 acres dedicated to dogs and nature?

    BTW only 30% of the Disc Golf membership is active according the their site. The city is giving 227 people park land. Sounds like how the Mexicans did land grants when they were here. Give to the rich and stave the poor.

    Or as my friend said, Every high school graduating class in the city of San Francisco, has more people than the all the disc golfers in the country.

  4. freedomlover said, on April 26, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    Stephanie — have you visited the course in Golden Gate Park? It sure doesn’t seem like it or you wouldn’t have made the snide comment that “The city is giving 227 people park land”. Paid membership in the club and number of active users is not the same. Hundreds of people use the GG Park course every week that probably don’t even know that a volunteer club paid for the installation and does all of the upkeep on the course. In any event there is no reason a disc golf course would not work in McLaren as it has in other municipal parks across the country. You might even be surprised to find out that many SF golfers are also dog owners and care deeply about our parks system. Hard to imagine right now with all of the sniping but the golfers might actually be good allies for other park needs.

    • Stephanie Nuttman said, on May 31, 2010 at 10:37 am

      I’m always fascinated by the assumptions people make about what I have or have not done or researched. You may have hundreds of members, but membership is only measurable by those who are actually listed and stand up to be counted. Since no one, Rec & Park, SF Disc Golfers have done actual studies of park and/or disc golf usage, everything you say is just speculation.

      The Disc Golfers are being used by Rec and Park. Rec and Park has always fought the citizens, especially those who own dogs for over a decade. You people have been caught in the fray. The hope is you will help Rec and Park get rid of the off leash dog area.

      You can have your disc golf, just not in the 9% of the park I and hundreds of other use to have peace and let our dogs become better, socialized citizens. As a real California NAtive, I am tired of being run off ancestors land.

      Now that leaves 91% of Mcclaren you can mixed use. Don’t get sucked into Rec and Park’s game, propose a course outside the Shelley Loop, than the community might help you.

  5. Ross Romano said, on May 31, 2010 at 8:43 am

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  6. […] Poor McLaren Park. It has a name, but sometimes it seems to lack an identity. Way out in the Excelsior – or is it Portola? – it boasts a head-spinning array of amenities: tennis and basketball courts, a pool, dog run areas galore, barbecue pits and an amphitheater, woodsy trails, and possibly soon a disc-golf course. […]

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  11. cesar said, on June 18, 2012 at 11:54 pm

    These people don’t consider all the lifeforms they are destroying, killing and trying to profit off the land like some human leeches. Go breathe and meditate in those beautiful woods, jeffery you and your stupid disc golf club of morons sound bored and need to stay out of mclaren.generations of blood sweat and tears, now you wanna play golf over it??

  12. […] Poor McLaren Park. It has a name, but sometimes it seems to lack an identity. Way out in the Excelsior – or is it Portola? – it boasts a head-spinning array of amenities: tennis and basketball courts, a pool, dog run areas galore, barbecue pits and an amphitheater, woodsy trails, and possibly soon a disc-golf course. […]

  13. Fixodent said, on April 8, 2013 at 10:40 pm

    I don’t know how much of a demand there is for it, but it looks like they want to take up half the park, seems kind of absurd.

  14. Supply Tattoo said, on April 8, 2013 at 10:41 pm

    How does a society decide who gets to use communal space?

  15. cesar said, on April 10, 2013 at 3:42 pm

    Disc golf will be highly sabotaged if even thought of stepping near McLaren park. Its a declaration of war against me and my animal friends!, so WE WILL FIGHT stay away bored disc golfers!

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